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c/cryptopay·posted 12 days ago by u/week_four_wall

[Question] vendor says paid, chain says confirmed, nobody shipped. now what

Question

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: gas fees matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 12 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 33 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

236 up / 322 down42% upvoted16 commentsid jv8jww18 Jul 2026

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u/discount_math_dm21 points·10 days ago

Yeah, the network selection matters most.

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u/blunt_coldbox_202418 points·10 days ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/week_four_wallOP25 points·10 days ago

The discount was 98.7% but gas ate half of it. Still worth it but the math matters.

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u/week_four_wallOP15 points·10 days ago

The discount was 98.1% but gas ate half of it. Still worth it but the math matters.

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u/vitamin_d_void11 points·11 days ago

stablecoin is chargeback, never volatile coins

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u/emil_marchand7 points·11 days ago

Strongly agree. Escrow is non-negotiable for groups.

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u/arne_ndiaye7 points·10 days ago

This is correct. Gas fees are real costs.

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u/ilias_nakamura6 points·10 days ago

stablecoin is chargeback, never volatile coins

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u/week_four_wallOP4 points·10 days ago

Sent orfo payment to the wrong chain. Spain, wrong network, vendor could not credit it. 18 day lesson.

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u/emil_marchand1 point·10 days ago

no price talk, no tickers, no investment discussion

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u/niels_lindqvist3 points·10 days ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/rasmus_kuipers0 points·9 days ago

gas versus discount arithmetic is real

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u/freya_onwuka1 point·10 days ago

chargeback rights are network: zero

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK1 point·10 days ago

the 11% discount versus 21% network fees

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes0 points·10 days ago

the 12% discount versus 12% network fees

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u/nils_ferreira1 point·10 days ago

Slight fix: the number was 93.7, not 99.3. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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