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[Lab] 20th independent test on QSC, and the trend is the interesting part

Lab Receipts ×3 Long Haul ×1 Clean Column ×1

Week 55 update. 46kg down from the start, early fullness basically gone since about week 95.

Things that worked: consistency, protein at breakfast, walking more than I want to. Things that did not: everything I bought on the internet to help with early fullness.

The part that surprised me is how much of this is admin. Ordering, storing, logging, remembering. Nobody mentions that the hard bit is not the drug, it is the routine.

Happy to answer anything. Please do not ask me what dose you should be on.

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u/adnan_karlsen1.4k points·2 years ago

First order from FGP was great, second one had a different batch and tested lower. The vendor retested and credited me. Logged it here.

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u/sofia_ferreira893 points·2 years ago
genuinely useful, thanks
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u/hamza_serrano313 points·2 years ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 5–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/anders_osei1.1k points·2 years ago

First order from HJ was great, second one had a different batch and tested lower. The vendor retested and credited me. Logged it here.

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u/lina_dziedzic665 points·2 years ago

Mechanistically the bit that matters is vendor. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.

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u/throwaway_titration342 points·2 years ago·edited

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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u/pavel_kravchenko244 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the evidence standard. Receipts make the community.

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u/honest_syringe19204 points·2 years ago

Which service tested it and what did they come back with?

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u/patient_labslip_log238 points·2 years ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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u/freya_onwuka129 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/liv_dumitru100 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the evidence standard. Receipts make the community.

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u/teodor_lokken76 points·2 years ago

receipts or nothing, sorry but that is the rule

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u/patient_labslip_logOP-11 points·2 years ago

Cosigning the evidence standard.

Adding to this: testing is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/patient_labslip_logOP1 point·2 years ago

the reship rate on TFC is actually pretty consistent

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u/patient_labslip_logOP69 points·2 years ago

independent test or vendor COA, which is it

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u/ireland_drugs_pay267 points·2 years ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/laila_almeida171 points·2 years ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

Disagree on that part. 98.7% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/adnan_karlsen124 points·2 years ago

This order history matches mine almost exactly. Same vendor, same timeframe, same result.

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u/gustav_vermeulen44 points·2 years ago

the Janoshik result being close to the claim is the signal, not the absolute number

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u/viktor_girard94 points·2 years ago

did they reship, credit, or ghost you?

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u/reads_the_wiki137 points·2 years ago

Not to be pedantic but vendor and Medutest are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/solene_eriksen70 points·2 years ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

Disagree on that part. 97.9% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/dario_ibarra148 points·2 years ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with PeptideMeter, not with what you concluded.

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u/zeynep_duarte92 points·2 years ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/britt_zamora50 points·2 years ago

Not to be pedantic but Janoshik and Janoshik are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/liv_dumitru74 points·2 years ago

Yeah, GL Biochem took 7 days and the material was flawless. Both of those things are true.

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u/mikkel_kimani18 points·2 years ago

vendor staff must self-identify, full stop

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