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c/cryptopay·posted 1 year ago by u/ledger_mod

[Discussion] can we stop arguing about chargeback until somebody posts a number

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network. That is the whole post, but I will justify it.

Everything else people worry about in c/meta is downstream of it. Titration speed, muscle cramps, the endless dose arguments — most of it resolves if you sort network out first, and almost nobody does.

I say this having got it wrong for 23 months. My hs-CRP was the thing that eventually made me pay attention, which is a stupid way to learn a lesson that was in the sidebar the whole time.

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u/chain_confirm_cMOD90 points·1 year ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/reflux_report26 points·1 year ago

Which network and did the vendor confirm they credit it?

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u/reverse_image_ron29 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Escrow is non-negotiable for groups.

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u/search_before_post24 points·1 year ago

USDC exists on 21 networks, vendor credits are network-specific

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u/tove_ogunleye72 points·1 year ago

no group-buy recruitment, discussing how they fail is fine

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u/ledger_modOPmod · vetting41 points·1 year ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/andres_dahlberg25 points·1 year ago

never post a wallet address, not yours, not a vendor's

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u/ledger_modOPmod · vetting44 points·1 year ago

The discount was 97.9% but gas ate half of it. Still worth it but the math matters.

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u/andres_dahlberg21 points·1 year ago

no group-buy recruitment, discussing how they fail is fine

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u/ilias_nakamura26 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/elin_trevino21 points·1 year ago

the 13% discount versus 14% network fees

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u/laila_almeida57 points·1 year ago

Water content matters more than people think. If a vial is carrying residual moisture, your "10mg" is not 10mg of peptide.

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u/enzo_ferrari0 points·1 year ago

escrow for group buys is standard, use it

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u/ravi_bergstrom26 points·1 year ago·edited

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/blunt_coldbox_202422 points·1 year ago

stablecoin is network, never volatile coins

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u/ravi_bergstrom10 points·1 year ago·edited

Not to be pedantic but USDC and confirmations are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK14 points·1 year ago

Not to be pedantic but USDC and confirmations are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

Adding to this: gas fees is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/enzo_ferrari8 points·1 year ago

stablecoin is network, never volatile coins

Adding to this: chargeback is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/hugo_pires34 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Escrow is non-negotiable for groups.

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u/niels_lindqvist21 points·1 year ago

confirmations are network, the exchange rate at 2 blocks is the deal

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Paying for research material with crypto: which networks vendors actually credit, confirmation windows, memo/tag requirements, gas versus discount arithmetic, escrow for group buys, and the total absence of chargeback rights. Not investment discussion — payments only.

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