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c/insurancefights·posted 2 years ago by u/dose_diary_dana

[Vendor] WXT order #9 — the Netherlands, 33 days, no drama, receipts inside

Template Clean Column ×2 Slow Clap ×1 Receipts ×3

Been lurking in c/cryptopay for about 12 months and finally have something worth posting.

Short version: week 39, 2.4mg, and appeal is the bit I still cannot get a straight answer on. I have read the wiki, I have read the last 23 threads, and the answers split roughly down the middle.

What I actually want to know is whether the people saying it does not matter have measured it, or whether it is just repeated confidently. Happy to be told I am overthinking this — I probably am — but I would rather overthink it now than at week 33.

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u/appeal_letter_alMOD643 points·2 years ago

Removed a chain here. The rule is one line long and it is not negotiable.

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u/dose_diary_danaOPlog keeper340 points·2 years ago

denial reason codes matter, ask for the actual code

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u/dose_diary_danaOPlog keeper200 points·2 years ago

Copay was formulary for the copay then another 2% of the total. Read the actual plan document.

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u/nikhil_asante497 points·2 years ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/bence_zielinski223 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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u/step_therapy_s398 points·2 years ago
genuinely useful, thanks
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u/curious_panel_only93 points·2 years ago

formulary exclusions are negotiable sometimes

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u/maren_sorensen51 points·2 years ago

formulary exclusions are negotiable sometimes

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/adaeze_weiss210 points·2 years ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/runa_wikstrom96 points·2 years ago

resubmission after denial requires new documentation

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u/tuva_kirchner27 points·2 years ago

resubmission after denial requires new documentation

Disagree on that part. 98.4% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/solene_eriksen124 points·2 years ago

do not suggest misrepresenting a diagnosis, that is fraud

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u/purity_pedantanalytical128 points·2 years ago

What was the denial code?

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u/hamza_weiss33 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. Step therapy is predictable if you have the criteria.

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u/elin_lindqvist14 points·2 years ago

What was the denial code?

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u/janoshik_junkieindependent tester33 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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u/wholesome_lurker115 points·2 years ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 2–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/hugo_pires38 points·2 years ago

External review overturned the denial. Took 4 weeks but the process exists.

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u/saskia_rahimi11 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/kian_balogun27 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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u/maren_sorensen0 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

Adding to this: prior authorization is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/peak_area_peteanalytical71 points·2 years ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with external review, not with what you concluded.

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u/adaeze_weiss35 points·2 years ago

say which country and which plan type

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u/milan_wikstrom12 points·2 years ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

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u/kian_ferreira23 points·2 years ago·edited

Disagree.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/step_therapy_s13 points·2 years ago

formulary exclusions are negotiable sometimes

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u/sock_puppet_spotter79 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. Step therapy is predictable if you have the criteria.

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