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c/cryptopay·posted 3 months ago by u/karim_hartmann

three years of confirmations threads, summarised so you do not have to read them

Fees Receipts ×9 Cold Box ×1

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: USDC matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 2 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 37 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/zaid_dahlberg227 points·3 months ago·edited

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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[deleted]82 points·3 months ago

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u/emil_marchand38 points·3 months ago

the 15% discount versus 40% network fees

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u/niels_lindqvist23 points·3 months ago

USDC exists on 20 networks, vendor credits are network-specific

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u/amara_kuipers67 points·3 months ago

Which network and did the vendor confirm they credit it?

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u/karim_hartmannOP28 points·3 months ago

memo/tag requirements differ by network

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u/blunt_coldbox_2024122 points·3 months ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/karim_hartmannOP76 points·3 months ago

network selection matters, wrong chain is the expensive typo

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u/sten_palacios28 points·3 months ago·edited

escrow for group buys is standard, use it

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u/laila_almeida57 points·3 months ago

network selection matters, wrong chain is the expensive typo

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u/nadia_kjaer28 points·3 months ago

gas versus discount arithmetic is real

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u/ledger_modMOD55 points·3 months ago

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/noor_hovland46 points·3 months ago

network selection matters, wrong chain is the expensive typo

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u/laila_almeida67 points·3 months ago

Did you check confirmation speed on that chain?

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u/week_four_wall95 points·3 months ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 10–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/rasmus_kuipers63 points·3 months ago

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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u/kian_ekstrom51 points·3 months ago

This is correct. Gas fees are real costs.

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u/elodie_yilmaz23 points·3 months ago·edited

no price talk, no tickers, no investment discussion

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u/lurker_for_years14 points·3 months ago

This is correct. Gas fees are real costs.

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u/karim_hartmannOP6 points·3 months ago

This is correct.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 68 weeks to accept.

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u/neha_erdogan29 points·3 months ago

You have restated the marketing copy. What is the actual substance here.

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u/elin_trevino8 points·3 months ago

no group-buy recruitment, discussing how they fail is fine

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u/hugo_pires18 points·3 months ago

Strongly agree. Escrow is non-negotiable for groups.

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u/honest_syringe_20254 points·3 months ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/hassan_castellanos27 points·3 months ago
nobody says this and everybody needs to hear it
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u/teodor_jansen13 points·3 months ago·edited

stablecoin is confirmations, never volatile coins

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u/nadia_norgaard-34 points·3 months ago

memo/tag requirements differ by network

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u/neha_erdogan1 point·3 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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