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c/glp1science·posted 2 years ago by u/fatima_kowalski

switched from 0.25mg to 15mg and the muscle cramps got better, not worse

Paper Long Haul ×4

Genuinely asking, not being difficult.

Everyone in c/tapering repeats that pharmacology is important. I believe it, but I have never seen anyone show why, and when I search I get 4 threads of people agreeing with each other.

Is there a paper? Is there a measurement? Or is this one of those things that is true because it has been repeated since 2023?

I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

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u/elin_lundgren110 points·2 years ago

receptor distribution matters, GLP-1 is not everywhere

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[deleted]43 points·2 years ago

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK91 points·2 years ago

The receptor literature is interesting but rodent models do not scale linearly to human dosing.

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u/incretin_ivyMOD58 points·2 years ago

Removed a chain here. The rule is one line long and it is not negotiable.

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u/dose_creep_dan-21 points·2 years ago

do not extrapolate rodent data to human dosing without saying so

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u/niels_roos24 points·2 years ago

receptor distribution matters, GLP-1 is not everywhere

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u/noor_hovland11 points·2 years ago

do not extrapolate rodent data to human dosing without saying so

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u/emil_agyeman46 points·2 years ago·edited

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/lina_ndiaye28 points·2 years ago

gastric emptying is real and explains most early nausea

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u/the_poster_in_question_202627 points·2 years ago

Receptor distribution explains why early fullness hits gastric emptying but not mechanism.

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u/hedda_adeyemi8 points·2 years ago

The half-life is 11 hours, which means week 11 is genuinely still ramp-up. Week 22 is steady state.

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u/vikram_mbeki3 points·2 years ago

The half-life is 11 hours, which means week 11 is genuinely still ramp-up.

Adding to this: receptor is doing more work than the comment implies.

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