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c/coa·posted 3 days ago by u/coa_forgery_watch

PDF metadata says the file was created in a browser. is that normal?

Suspicious Long Haul ×9

Short answer, for anyone who finds this from a search: no.

Longer version. A COA from an actual laboratory is exported from instrument software or from a LIMS. The PDF producer string reflects that. What it does not usually say is the name of a web browser, a word processor, or an online PDF editor.

The document I am looking at — TFC, and to be clear I think this one is a reseller's re-export rather than a forgery — has a creation timestamp four months after the analysis date printed on the page. That could be a re-issue. It could also be nothing. But it is checkable in about fifteen seconds and almost nobody checks.

How to look: open the PDF properties, or run strings on it and grep for Producer and CreationDate.

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u/batch_number_bertievetting302 points·3 days ago

This is the cheapest check available and it catches a genuinely surprising amount. The pattern I see most is not a forged report — it is a real report that has been through three hands and had a logo pasted over it.

Which is worth distinguishing, because "reseller re-exported a genuine document" and "somebody generated a document" are very different accusations and this community has to be careful about which one it is making.

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u/coa_forgery_watchOP164 points·3 days ago

yes, and that distinction is why i flaired this Suspicious rather than Confirmed. the metadata is odd. that is all i am claiming.

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u/ledger_modMOD138 points·3 days ago

Correct flair, correct restraint, thank you. For everyone else: this is what an unresolved observation looks like. Confirmed means documentary evidence of the thing you are alleging, not a suspicious field.

We have had to retract two accusations in three years and both times the underlying observation was real and the conclusion drawn from it was not.

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u/scam_taxonomyc/scamalerts96 points·2 days ago

and both retractions are still on the source pages, annotated. that is on purpose.

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u/due_diligence_dee71 points·2 days ago

the fact that the retractions stay up is genuinely the reason i trust the rest of the directory.

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u/ledger_modMOD84 points·1 days ago

That is exactly the trade. A record you can edit silently is not a record.

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u/reverse_image_ron143 points·3 days ago

same energy as reverse-searching the facility photos. about half of them are stock libraries and about a tenth are a different company entirely.

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u/whois_wanda88 points·3 days ago

my favourite version of this: a document dated before the domain was registered.

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u/coa_forgery_watch61 points·3 days ago

that one is beautiful and i have never caught it myself

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u/gradient_goblin57 points·3 days ago·edited

worth adding that instrument software exports are often ugly — bad fonts, fixed-width tables, no branding. an immaculately designed COA is mildly suspicious on aesthetic grounds alone. edit: not evidence, just a smell.

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u/devils_advocate_d-21 points·3 days ago

plenty of legitimate labs re-export to PDF. this whole post is vibes.

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u/batch_number_bertievetting106 points·2 days ago

they do, and the post says so twice. the claim is that it is worth fifteen seconds of checking, not that a producer string convicts anyone.

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