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c/coldchain·submitted 3 months ago by u/preservative_free_p

packaging: what the trials say vs what this community says

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Week 88 update. 34kg down from the start, reflux basically gone since about week 45. Things that worked: consistency, protein at breakfast, walking more than I want to. Things that did not: everything I bought on the internet to help with reflux. The part that surprised me is how much of this is admin. Ordering,…

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u/emeka_beaulieu101 points·3 months ago

Customs clearance took 12 days. Package sat unrefrigerated during that. Powder tested clean after, reconstituted solution probably would not have.

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u/ferran_laurent0 points·3 months ago

lyophilised powder is far more forgiving than reconstituted solution

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u/emeka_beaulieu1 point·3 months ago

lyophilised powder is far more forgiving than reconstituted solution

Disagree on that part. 99.2% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/asks_dumb_questions1 point·3 months ago

Strongly agree. Peak temperature is not the whole story.

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u/marta_ilunga1 point·3 months ago

time-at-temperature integral is the dose, not just peak temperature

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u/rohan_steiner1 point·3 months ago

the logger trace is the data that matters, not the packaging promises

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u/fatima_yildiz1 point·3 months ago

lane reports need origin, destination, carrier, and actual transit days

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u/prior_auth_painappeals1 point·3 months ago

a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder

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u/coa_collectorarchivist1 point·3 months ago

lane reports need origin, destination, carrier, and actual transit days

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u/tomas_lokken1 point·3 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 96.8, not 94.2. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/emil_marchand-7 points·3 months ago

gel packs last 7 hours, after that you are relying on the box itself

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u/marit_laurent0 points·3 months ago

time-at-temperature integral is the dose, not just peak temperature

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u/ilias_steiner33 points·3 months ago·edited

Yeah, data logger is the only acceptable proof.

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u/anjali_tamm20 points·3 months ago

Yeah, data logger is the only acceptable proof.

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u/emeka_delgado10 points·3 months ago

no tracking numbers, no full addresses, no label photos — instant removal

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u/reship_roulette78 points·3 months ago

Customs clearance took 12 days.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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