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c/coldchain·posted 10 months ago by u/salma_vasquez

[Results] 41 weeks on 15mg, full numbers, ask me anything boring

Question Receipts ×9

Week 10 update. 31kg down from the start, muscle cramps basically gone since about week 50.

Things that worked: consistency, protein at breakfast, walking more than I want to. Things that did not: everything I bought on the internet to help with muscle cramps.

The part that surprised me is how much of this is admin. Ordering, storing, logging, remembering. Nobody mentions that the hard bit is not the drug, it is the routine.

Happy to answer anything. Please do not ask me what dose you should be on.

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u/coa_collectorarchivist99 points·10 months ago

excursion claims need a logger trace or a photo at unboxing, not "it felt warm"

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u/salma_vasquezOP76 points·10 months ago

The gel pack lasted 10 hours in a courier van, then liquid. Powder itself fine, the cold chain mostly died in transit.

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u/bruno_dumitru49 points·10 months ago

no tracking numbers, no full addresses, no label photos — instant removal

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u/ines_lindqvist20 points·10 months ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/kian_solberg52 points·10 months ago·edited

customs clearance often breaks the cold chain, factor that in

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u/nadia_kjaer12 points·10 months ago

gel packs last 7 hours, after that you are relying on the box itself

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column73 points·10 months ago

France to France takes 14 days on average, variance is 8 days

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u/sten_palacios55 points·10 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 6 weeks, not 28. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain38 points·10 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 6 weeks, not 28.

Adding to this: cold chain is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/honest_syringe3325 points·10 months ago

data logger is the standard, gut feeling is not

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u/creatine_and_cardio9 points·10 months ago

gel packs last 4 hours, after that you are relying on the box itself

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u/nikhil_asante42 points·10 months ago

Reconstituted or dry powder?

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u/solene_abubakar19 points·10 months ago

the logger trace is the data that matters, not the packaging promises

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u/elodie_kuipers0 points·10 months ago

lane reports need origin, destination, carrier, and actual transit days

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u/brigade_detector27 points·10 months ago

a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder

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u/vito_chowdhury9 points·10 months ago·edited

Strongly agree. Peak temperature is not the whole story.

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u/zeynep_ndiaye6 points·10 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 16 weeks, not 24. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/anya_rautio34 points·10 months ago

This is correct. Dry powder is way more robust than liquid.

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u/salma_vasquezOP13 points·10 months ago

Customs clearance took 3 days. Package sat unrefrigerated during that. Powder tested clean after, reconstituted solution probably would not have.

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u/isabela_nilsen16 points·10 months ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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u/isabela_nilsen25 points·10 months ago

Yeah, data logger is the only acceptable proof.

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u/tomas_lokken8 points·10 months ago

Yeah, data logger is the only acceptable proof.

Adding to this: data logger is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/emil_marchand7 points·10 months ago

stability after excursion is not zero, it is dose-dependent

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u/mod_cold_roommod · c/coldchain10 points·10 months ago·edited

lane reports need origin, destination, carrier, and actual transit days

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u/bence_ibarra5 points·10 months ago

a warm courier van is a bigger problem for a mixed vial than for dry powder

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u/milos_vestergaard0 points·10 months ago

gel packs last 7 hours, after that you are relying on the box itself

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