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c/darkspot·posted 1 months ago by u/ismael_chukwu

[Failure] two years in, stopped for financial reasons, regained most of it

Failure Long Haul ×4

Confession thread, sort of.

I went from 2.5mg to 1.0mg much faster than I should have because the scale had stalled and I got impatient. The stall broke about 21 weeks later, at which point I had no way of knowing whether the dose increase did anything or whether it would have broken anyway.

So now I have muscle cramps I did not need and a data point I cannot interpret. Two lessons in one.

Posting it in the hope that somebody at week 20 reads it before doing the same thing.

505 up / 62 down89% upvoted26 commentsid yulto917 Jun 2026

26 comments

21 in this archive, depth 5

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u/sorted_by_new73 points·1 months ago

money lost to group buys

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u/priya_palacios59 points·1 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/elin_trevino22 points·1 months ago

This is correct. Evidence still required.

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u/rania_salinas5 points·1 months ago

Not to be pedantic but what went wrong and failure are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/yusuf_achebe41 points·1 months ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/fabio_kuipers28 points·1 months ago

still evidence-based: what went wrong, when, proof

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u/slow_logbook8 points·1 months ago

still evidence-based: what went wrong, when, proof

Adding to this: what went wrong is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/ledger_modMOD35 points·1 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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[removed]24 points·1 months ago

[removed by moderator]

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology10 points·1 months ago

Did anything else change in the same window?

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u/TitrationTortoiseslow and boring5 points·1 months ago

tests that came back 99.2%

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u/endpoint_creep15 points·1 months ago·edited

the lesson is the point

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u/marisol_frisk10 points·1 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 5 weeks, not 38. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/two_mil_or_one6 points·1 months ago·edited

Small correction: the trial was 5 weeks, not 38.

Disagree on that part. 99.0% and 98.9% on the same vial is normal.

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u/wanjiru_ramos10 points·1 months ago

decisions people would not make again

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u/blunt_coldbox_20247 points·1 months ago

decisions people would not make again

Adding to this: below spec is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/ismael_chukwuOP4 points·1 months ago

no "told you so" comments, removed without discussion

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u/fabio_lehtinen16 points·1 months ago

no "told you so" comments, removed without discussion

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u/ismael_chukwuOP0 points·1 months ago

Second this question. I have wondered about failure for 16 months and never seen a straight answer.

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u/milos_vestergaard17 points·1 months ago·edited

side effects that ended someone's run

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u/nadia_nascimento9 points·1 months ago
i have this exact spreadsheet
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