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anyone else notice mechanism kicking in around week 70

Question Long Haul ×7 The Quiet One ×2

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: mechanism matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 22 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 7 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/emeka_chowdhury-15 points·1 year ago

Is that mechanism or speculation?

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u/camila_kowalski1 point·1 year ago

cite the paper: journal, year, first author, links optional

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u/katrin_marchetti1 point·1 year ago

Small correction: the trial was 3 weeks, not 32. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/rafael_ostergaard1 point·1 year ago

mechanistic speculation is welcome if flaired as speculation

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u/emeka_chowdhury1 point·1 year ago

Slight fix: the number was 96.8, not 99.1. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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[deleted]1 point·1 year ago

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u/rafael_ostergaard160 points·1 year ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/annika_fonseca243 points·1 year ago

the 15-day half-life means week 15 is still ramp-up pharmacokinetically

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u/split_dose_scepticOP191 points·1 year ago·edited

incretin physiology is receptor, the mechanism layer

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u/employer_carveout204 points·1 year ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/lina_ndiaye142 points·1 year ago

This is correct. Rodent data is investigational, not predictive.

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