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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/quiet_moderator

unpopular opinion: fraud is massively overrated

Question Sourced ×3 Long Haul ×2

Genuinely asking, not being difficult.

Everyone in c/semaglutide repeats that exit scam is important. I believe it, but I have never seen anyone show why, and when I search I get 20 threads of people agreeing with each other.

Is there a paper? Is there a measurement? Or is this one of those things that is true because it has been repeated since 2023?

I am not trying to be the "source?" guy. I would just like a source.

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u/laila_yilmaz342 points·1 year ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/nordic_pricing-35 points·1 year ago

no doxxing, company registration is fine, individuals are not

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u/aksel_jansen186 points·1 year ago

PDF metadata said the COA was created in a browser four months after the date printed on the page. Worth flagging.

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u/quiet_moderatorOPmod135 points·1 year ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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u/ines_ekstrom161 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. The dispute resolved and the record stayed updated.

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u/rulebook_rachaelmod · c/meta122 points·1 year ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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u/quiet_moderatorOPmod0 points·1 year ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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u/quiet_moderatorOPmod84 points·1 year ago

The PeptideMeter results I got back showed 98.9% but QYB claimed 94.2%. Same vial, two services. I posted the receipts.

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u/ferran_batista162 points·1 year ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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u/whois_wandaMOD84 points·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/long_post_larry21 points·1 year ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 55 weeks to accept.

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u/neha_mwangi36 points·1 year ago

Which order and did you have any communication from MKM?

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u/valeria_karlsen52 points·1 year ago

group buy exit scams follow a pattern

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u/pavel_nkemelu90 points·1 year ago

The PeptideMeter results I got back showed 98.3% but MKM claimed 98.0%. Same vial, two services. I posted the receipts.

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u/pavel_nkemelu58 points·1 year ago

the reship offer that never sends anything is worth noting

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u/reflux_report85 points·1 year ago

a dispute resolves, edit the post and say so

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u/reflux_report40 points·1 year ago

the BCH situation resolved, logged it here as resolved

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u/nordic_pricing11 points·1 year ago

sock puppet accounts ask the same leading questions

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u/muscle_cramp_mo80 points·1 year ago

Rodent data is rodent data.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/milos_vestergaard47 points·1 year ago

no doxxing, company registration is fine, individuals are not

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u/rania_diallo126 points·1 year ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/ines_ekstrom80 points·1 year ago

This is evidence. The metadata is checkable and it is odd.

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u/ferritin_low45 points·1 year ago·edited

I love that this community will spend 40 comments on a detail. That pedantry is why the numbers here matter.

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u/santiago_rasmussen12 points·1 year ago

fake COAs always have the same tell: perfect results, zero variance

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u/joaquin_ivaturi0 points·1 year ago

the batch number appearing across three vendors is a red flag

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u/archived_thread_a26 points·1 year ago
controversial sort brought me here and it was worth it
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