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c/semaglutide·submitted 6 days ago by u/graph_it_gary

[PSA] how to actually tell noise from a real plateau instead of guessing

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Getting asked "is this a real plateau" constantly so here's the actual method instead of vibes. Take your daily weigh-ins, compute a 7-day rolling average (average of today + previous 6 days), and plot that line instead of the raw numbers. A real plateau is when the rolling average itself goes flat for 3+ weeks. Raw…

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u/hazard_ratio_halstats92 points·6 days ago

worth noting even in the STEP trials, individual weight trajectories were not smooth monotonic declines — group means hide a lot of individual-level plateau-and-drop patterning. this table is basically a home version of what trial statisticians already handle with smoothing.

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u/forest_plot_fionastats44 points·6 days ago

right, the published curves are already averaged over hundreds of people, individual noise is much louder than the population curve suggests

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u/kaplan_meier_kim27 points·5 days ago

same lesson as watching a survival curve, the smooth published line and any one patient's actual jagged path are almost different objects

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u/hazard_ratio_halstats18 points·5 days ago

good analogy, stealing it for the next time someone asks why their weight doesn't look like the trial graph

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u/intent_to_treat13 points·5 days ago

ITT vs per-protocol has the same flavor too, the population-level number and any one person's actual experience answer different questions

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u/placebo_arm_pam9 points·4 days ago

and people forget the placebo arm in these trials wasn't flat either, some of that "noise" is just being a human body over months regardless of the drug

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