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c/cagrilintide·posted 1 year ago by u/noor_vermeulen

tried CagriSema for 12 weeks. here is what happened.

Caution Long Haul ×4

I have had 8 orders now and I keep a table, so here is the honest summary rather than a vibe.

Material has been consistent. Communication has not. Shipping has varied by about 40 days on nominally the same lane, which matters more in summer than in February.

The independent number came back 96.8% against a claimed 99.1%, which I read as agreement rather than a discrepancy — inter-lab variance on this assay is a point or two either way and treating one lab as ground truth is how people end up in pointless arguments with vendors.

Batch number is in the comments. Ask if you want the method.

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u/niels_norgaard82 points·1 year ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/nz_unfunded66 points·1 year ago

tendon and CagriSema literature in rodents is interesting

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u/marta_ilunga64 points·1 year ago

long-acting amylin is CagriSema, different satiety profile

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u/zeynep_zielinski61 points·1 year ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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u/niels_norgaard19 points·1 year ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/teodor_lokken33 points·1 year ago

the mechanism is different, the side effect profile reflects it

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u/titration_marshalmod · c/semaglutide16 points·1 year ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/throwaway_44b14 points·1 year ago

not approved anywhere, keep posts descriptive, not instructional

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u/teodor_lokken37 points·1 year ago
nope. mine was the opposite.
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u/noor_vermeulenOP22 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. REDEFINE is phase 15, not final.

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u/zeynep_zielinski12 points·1 year ago·edited

the co-agonism question is real and interesting

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u/niels_norgaard14 points·1 year ago

Slight fix: the number was 99.1, not 93.7. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/amara_kuipers3 points·1 year ago

Slight fix: the number was 99.1, not 93.7.

Adding to this: REDEFINE is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/rina_sobczak6 points·1 year ago

Small correction: the trial was 8 weeks, not 5. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/liv_dumitru20 points·1 year ago·edited

Every time this gets posted it hits the front page and every time someone has to re-explain it.

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u/forest_plot_fionastats16 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. REDEFINE is phase 14, not final.

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u/lucia_bruun16 points·1 year ago

Every time this gets posted it hits the front page and every time someone has to re-explain it.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/zeynep_ndiaye7 points·1 year ago·edited

REDEFINE readouts are phase 8 data

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u/ledger_modMOD20 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/chidi_yilmaz11 points·1 year ago·edited

Not to be pedantic but satiety and REDEFINE are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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Amylin analog pharmacology and the CagriSema combination: why amylin and GLP-1 co-agonism produces a different satiety profile, the REDEFINE readouts, and the very limited pool of people handling cagrilintide as research material.

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