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[Discussion] the copay advice in here is 4 years out of date

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external review. That is the whole post, but I will justify it.

Everything else people worry about in c/dosinglogs is downstream of it. Titration speed, muscle cramps, the endless dose arguments — most of it resolves if you sort external review out first, and almost nobody does.

I say this having got it wrong for 21 months. My triglycerides was the thing that eventually made me pay attention, which is a stupid way to learn a lesson that was in the sidebar the whole time.

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u/saskia_rahimi41 points·1 months ago·edited

This is correct. Appeal letters work.

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u/step_therapy_sMOD20 points·1 months ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/hassan_castellanos7 points·1 months ago

Mechanistically the bit that matters is appeal. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.

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u/kaia_cabrera2 points·1 months ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

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u/elin_lindqvist2 points·1 months ago

external review is the appeal after insurance says no

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/fabio_kuipers15 points·1 months ago

step therapy documentation is the weapon, use it

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u/cardio_endpoint_c4 points·1 months ago

resubmission after denial requires new documentation

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u/formulary_fighterappeals9 points·1 months ago

the carve-out clause varies by employer

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u/sock_puppet_spotterOP5 points·1 months ago

the carve-out clause varies by employer

Disagree on that part. 98.1% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/tidy_vialdrawer_watch2 points·1 months ago

copay is separate from coverage

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u/niels_salinas8 points·1 months ago

This is correct. Appeal letters work.

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u/greta_chukwu6 points·1 months ago

What was the denial code?

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u/milan_wikstrom2 points·1 months ago

resubmission after denial requires new documentation

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u/nikhil_asante2 points·1 months ago

This is correct.

Disagree on that part. 98.6% and 98.7% on the same vial is normal.

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u/amira_dumitru2 points·1 months ago

say which country and which plan type

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