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c/insurancefights·posted 2 years ago by u/marta_vanhecke

formulary is the most under-discussed thing in c/cagrilintide

Discussion Long Haul ×2

Posting this because I searched for it and got nothing useful.

Setup: 10mg, week 62, injection-site soreness present but not ruining anything. I changed exactly one variable — appeal — and tracked it for 22 weeks.

Result: a difference, but a small one, and well inside what I would call noise if someone else posted it. So I am putting it here rather than presenting it as a finding. If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something.

Not medical advice, obviously. This is one person with a spreadsheet.

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u/ahmed_abubakar0 points·2 years ago

the carve-out clause varies by employer

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u/elise_grimaldi1 point·2 years ago

the carve-out clause varies by employer

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 58 weeks to accept.

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u/maren_ibarra68 points·2 years ago·edited

Strongly agree. Step therapy is predictable if you have the criteria.

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u/oskar_kaufmann70 points·2 years ago·edited

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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u/hassan_chowdhury-12 points·2 years ago

This is correct. Appeal letters work.

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u/ferran_batista1 point·2 years ago

Did you get step therapy or outright denial?

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u/plain_titration_202442 points·2 years ago

say which country and which plan type

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u/hplc_hobbyistruns their own column33 points·2 years ago·edited

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/canada_coverage11 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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u/step_therapy_sMOD19 points·2 years ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/plain_titration_202428 points·2 years ago

Disagree. What you are describing is consistent with denial, not with what you concluded.

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u/line_petrov10 points·2 years ago

Disagree.

Disagree on that part. 99.2% and 96.2% on the same vial is normal.

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u/marta_vanheckeOP10 points·2 years ago

Yeah, the denial code matters, it tells you what to fight.

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u/arne_amankwah12 points·2 years ago

Disagree.

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 8 weeks to accept.

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u/cardio_endpoint_c3 points·2 years ago

do not suggest misrepresenting a diagnosis, that is fraud

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u/marisol_moreau27 points·2 years ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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u/canada_coverage14 points·2 years ago

formulary exclusions are negotiable sometimes

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u/ferritin_low14 points·2 years ago

Yeah, the denial code matters, it tells you what to fight.

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u/whois_wanda8 points·2 years ago

Strongly agree. Step therapy is predictable if you have the criteria.

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u/vito_beaulieu5 points·2 years ago

What was the denial code?

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u/marta_vanheckeOP3 points·2 years ago

appeal letter templates are in the wiki

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