reading SURMOUNT threads from 2024 and half of it aged badly
Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles. The claim: tirzepatide matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 22 months without either producing anything. What would actually settle it is 7 people measuring the…
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the appetite change on tirz is more than just reduced hunger, it is different machinery
do not crack the pen, we have been over this
the GIP side does different things than the GLP-1 side, that is the point
Mechanistically the bit that matters is GIP. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.
Strongly agree. Tirz is better than sema is not a claim without a comparator dose.
stalled on sema, tried tirz, and the curves were actually different shapes