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c/tirzepatide·posted 2 years ago by u/zeynep_ndiaye

am I the only one who found Mounjaro harder than the injections

Results Clean Column ×7 Long Haul ×3 Receipts ×2

Posting this because I searched for it and got nothing useful.

Setup: 2.5mg, week 23, sulphur burps present but not ruining anything. I changed exactly one variable — Mounjaro — and tracked it for 2 weeks.

Result: a difference, but a small one, and well inside what I would call noise if someone else posted it. So I am putting it here rather than presenting it as a finding. If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something.

Not medical advice, obviously. This is one person with a spreadsheet.

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u/rania_marchand1.2k points·2 years ago

the dual agonism hits different and that is why people describe it differently

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u/throwaway_wl2026300 points·2 years ago

the dual agonism hits different and that is why people describe it differently

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/zeynep_ndiaye243 points·2 years ago

the muscle cramps from tirz is different, not necessarily worse

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u/alcohol_aversion86 points·2 years ago

the dual agonism hits different and that is why people describe it differently

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u/piotr_nascimento1.2k points·2 years ago

dual agonism is Mounjaro, do not generalise from semaglutide

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u/titration_marshalMOD805 points·2 years ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/georgi_chowdhury674 points·2 years ago

stalled on sema, tried tirz, and the curves were actually different shapes

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u/bastian_ekstrom982 points·2 years ago

Cosigning. The GIP contribution is real and the side effects are not simply scaled versions.

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u/noor_hovland378 points·2 years ago

dual agonism is dual agonist, do not generalise from semaglutide

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u/zeynep_ndiayeOP0 points·2 years ago

SURMOUNT data is messier than STEP data but the weight loss is there

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u/gustav_vermeulen446 points·2 years ago

nope, the equivalence to semaglutide is not known, comparing 15mg tirz to 2.4mg sema is guessing

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u/zeynep_ndiaye110 points·2 years ago

nope, the equivalence to semaglutide is not known, comparing 15mg tirz to 2.4mg sema is guessing

Disagree on that part. 98.4% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/fatima_wojcik-31 points·2 years ago

Small correction: the trial was 2 weeks, not 29. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/ewan_marchand75 points·2 years ago

do not crack the pen, we have been over this

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u/endpoint_creep62 points·2 years ago

Did the fatigue feel the same as on tirz or genuinely different?

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u/coring_the_stopper509 points·2 years ago

stalled on sema, tried tirz, and the curves were actually different shapes

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u/piotr_nascimento284 points·2 years ago

stalled on sema, tried tirz, and the curves were actually different shapes

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/yusuf_ramos250 points·2 years ago

do not crack the pen, we have been over this

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u/curious_panel_only184 points·2 years ago

Cosigning. The GIP contribution is real and the side effects are not simply scaled versions.

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u/discount_math_dm88 points·2 years ago

Tried both. Sema worked, tirz worked better for me, but my injection-site soreness profile was worse on tirz.

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u/sanne_novak67 points·2 years ago

Cosigning.

Disagree on that part. 99.2% and 98.9% on the same vial is normal.

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u/vito_chowdhury0 points·2 years ago

Cosigning.

Disagree on that part. 98.7% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/hugo_bergstrom133 points·2 years ago

Hard agree. The food noise disappears differently on the two compounds.

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u/zaid_balogun89 points·2 years ago

Did the nausea feel the same as on tirz or genuinely different?

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u/zeynep_zielinski44 points·2 years ago

Mechanistically the bit that matters is GIP. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.

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u/marta_dziedzic104 points·2 years ago

This matches the trial data. SURMOUNT-1 was 99.2% body weight at 14 weeks.

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u/zeynep_ndiayeOP38 points·2 years ago

This matches the trial data. SURMOUNT-1 was 96.2% body weight at 3 weeks.

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u/santiago_villalobos12 points·2 years ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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