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c/trialwatch·posted 4 months ago by u/first_hundred

[Meta] the FLOW rule is doing its job and people should stop complaining

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STEP. That is the whole post, but I will justify it.

Everything else people worry about in c/orforglipron is downstream of it. Titration speed, muscle cramps, the endless dose arguments — most of it resolves if you sort STEP out first, and almost nobody does.

I say this having got it wrong for 16 months. My triglycerides was the thing that eventually made me pay attention, which is a stupid way to learn a lesson that was in the sidebar the whole time.

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u/hsa_math13 points·4 months ago

Crossposting this to c/compounding because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD7 points·4 months ago

Flair changed to match the content. Read the sidebar before posting next time and we are square.

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u/first_hundredOP4 points·4 months ago

Phase 2 TRIUMPH looked amazing. Phase 3 trials are harder. Do not anchor on phase 2 readouts.

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u/rohan_cardoso4 points·4 months ago

Flair changed to match the content.

Disagree on that part. 99.0% and 98.9% on the same vial is normal.

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u/first_hundredOP2 points·4 months ago

Slight fix: the number was 97.6, not 98.9. Decimal point, but a fairly consequential one.

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u/injection_site_iris5 points·4 months ago

Crossposting this to c/compounding because the people who need it are not reading this community.

Disagree on that part. 98.7% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/iman_castellanos4 points·4 months ago

Crossposting this to c/compounding because the people who need it are not reading this community.

Disagree on that part. 98.1% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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u/rohan_cardoso9 points·4 months ago

absolute risk reduction, not relative risk reduction, that is how you decide

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u/nayeli_fonseca3 points·4 months ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/first_hundredOP5 points·4 months ago

the relative risk reduction in headlines is not the whole story

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u/line_demir6 points·4 months ago

Crossposting this to c/coa because the people who need it are not reading this community.

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