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c/cagrilintide·submitted 2 years ago by u/yannick_petrov

small win: amylin stopped being a problem at week 75

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Something I noticed reading old threads that I have not seen said out loud. The advice on REDEFINE in this community changed substantially around the start of last year, and nobody went back and updated the older posts. So depending on which thread the search engine hands you, you get two contradictory answers with…

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u/rania_salinas126 points·2 years ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/zeynep_zielinski71 points·2 years ago

REDEFINE phase 18 readouts are interesting but 18 person REDEFINE is different from 18 trial REDEFINE.

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u/yannick_petrovOP32 points·2 years ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/blunt_coldbox0 points·2 years ago

REDEFINE phase 18 readouts are interesting but 18 person REDEFINE is different from 18 trial REDEFINE.

Disagree on that part. 93.7% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/tove_vasquez1 point·2 years ago

Strongly agree. REDEFINE is phase 4, not final.

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u/nl_verzekering1 point·2 years ago·edited

Small correction: the trial was 14 weeks, not 10. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/laila_dumitru58 points·2 years ago

REDEFINE readouts are phase 15 data

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u/clara_weiss33 points·2 years ago

Rodent or human data?

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u/milos_vestergaard25 points·2 years ago

not approved anywhere, keep posts descriptive, not instructional

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u/yannick_petrov21 points·2 years ago

This is correct. The co-agonism is real.

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u/rania_salinas9 points·2 years ago

This is the "correlation is mechanism" thing again. You changed three variables at once.

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u/noor_hovland14 points·2 years ago

CagriSema is a fixed combo in trials, not user-mixed

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u/lukas_vermeulen19 points·2 years ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/noor_ivaturi5 points·2 years ago

CagriSema ratios in trials are fixed, do not extrapolate self-mixing

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u/bpc_scepticresearch peptides182 points·2 years ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/plain_titration109 points·2 years ago

the amylin agonist pool is small, community is amylin

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u/runa_grimaldi75 points·2 years ago

the amylin agonist pool is small, community is amylin

Disagree on that part. 98.1% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/georgi_chowdhury37 points·2 years ago

This is correct. The co-agonism is real.

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u/ferritin_low40 points·2 years ago

the amylin agonist pool is small, community is satiety

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u/yannick_petrovOP15 points·2 years ago

The research community is small on cagrilintide. Forum lore changes faster than data.

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