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c/coa·posted 9 months ago by u/honest_syringe24

[Discussion] the related substances advice in here is 9 years out of date

Discussion Receipts ×5 Cold Box ×3 Well Actually ×3

Posting this because I searched for it and got nothing useful.

Setup: 2.4mg, week 87, injection-site soreness present but not ruining anything. I changed exactly one variable — certificate of analysis — and tracked it for 13 weeks.

Result: a difference, but a small one, and well inside what I would call noise if someone else posted it. So I am putting it here rather than presenting it as a finding. If two or three other people have done the same thing we might actually learn something.

Not medical advice, obviously. This is one person with a spreadsheet.

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u/yusuf_nakamura745 points·9 months ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/karma_irrelevant431 points·9 months ago

I love that this community will spend 40 comments on a detail. That pedantry is why the numbers here matter.

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u/laila_yilmaz277 points·9 months ago
this is the answer
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u/ahmed_rasmussen-4 points·9 months ago

Cosigning. The batch number is load-bearing information.

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u/step_therapy_s1 point·9 months ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/stablecoin_steve1 point·9 months ago

the method line is doing real work, not just window dressing

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u/anya_moreau1 point·9 months ago

PDF metadata is checkable in fifteen seconds

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u/halima_boateng186 points·9 months ago

Every time this gets posted it hits the front page and every time someone has to re-explain it.

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u/nadia_fonseca128 points·9 months ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/valeria_girard134 points·9 months ago·edited

redact your own name, not the vendor's batch details

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u/kavya_verhoeven92 points·9 months ago

Dead space in the needle hub holds a small but non-trivial volume. On low-volume draws that can be several units.

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u/anders_kuusela23 points·9 months ago

Edit to your parent would help — the concentration you quoted assumes one scenario and you have written another above it.

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u/rohan_steiner12 points·9 months ago

Cosigning. The batch number is load-bearing information.

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u/reflux_report70 points·9 months ago

axis labels included, always

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u/certified_referenceQC58 points·9 months ago

area% is not mass%, and here is exactly why it matters

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u/coa_collectorarchivist27 points·9 months ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/emeka_chowdhury19 points·9 months ago

Strongly agree. Mass% and area% are answering different questions on the same document.

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u/first_hundred16 points·9 months ago

post the whole document, not the headline number

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u/milos_vanhecke13 points·9 months ago·edited

post the whole document, not the headline number

Adding to this: COA is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/aleksi_eriksen50 points·9 months ago

Metadata check caught a COA that was created in a browser four months after the analysis date. Not evidence of fraud, but worth flagging to SWB.

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u/nikhil_lindqvist13 points·9 months ago

Yeah, 96.8% area is not the problem, the missing impurity breakdown is the problem.

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u/ghrp_history12 points·9 months ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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u/stablecoin_steve10 points·9 months ago

no "is this good?" without saying what the compound and claimed purity are

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u/emeka_beaulieu4 points·9 months ago

redact your own name, not the vendor's batch details

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u/isabela_nilsen21 points·9 months ago

Metadata check caught a COA that was created in a browser four months after the analysis date.

Disagree on that part. 97.9% and 97.6% on the same vial is normal.

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