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c/maintenancephase·posted 1 year ago by u/ferritin_low

anyone else notice long term kicking in around week 20

Discussion Clean Column ×9 Cold Box ×2

Week 53 update. 4kg down from the start, muscle cramps basically gone since about week 10.

Things that worked: consistency, protein at breakfast, walking more than I want to. Things that did not: everything I bought on the internet to help with muscle cramps.

The part that surprised me is how much of this is admin. Ordering, storing, logging, remembering. Nobody mentions that the hard bit is not the drug, it is the routine.

Happy to answer anything. Please do not ask me what dose you should be on.

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u/graph_it_gary367 points·1 year ago

Regain on a taper is expected. 7% back over 20 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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u/constipation_clubside effects260 points·1 year ago

Yeah, maintenance is the boring part and the important part.

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u/hub_opssite staff124 points·1 year ago

Regain on a taper is expected. 17% back over 8 weeks, which matches the discontinuation data. Planned for it.

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u/oskar_malinowski100 points·1 year ago

Regain on a taper is expected.

Counter-anecdote: opposite result, same dose. Which mostly tells us the variance is huge.

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u/taper_off_tabitha208 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Lowest effective dose is a real discovery process.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology74 points·1 year ago

food noise returns but not always immediately

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u/gradient_goblin112 points·1 year ago·edited

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/sofia_wikstrom68 points·1 year ago

Yeah, maintenance is the boring part and the important part.

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u/sanne_delgado31 points·1 year ago

the lowest dose you can stay on is not the lowest dose that works

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