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c/trialwatch·posted 3 months ago by u/camila_vasquez

Canada: endpoint, and what it actually costs here

Trial Data Well Actually ×5 Long Haul ×3

Quick one. Canada here.

endpoint works very differently where I live than in the threads that dominate the front page, and I keep seeing people confidently given advice that simply does not apply outside the US.

Specifics: the route I used took 20 weeks and cost roughly what I expected. The admin was worse than the cost. The thing that would have saved me the most time was knowing which document to ask for at the start.

Happy to answer questions from anyone in the same jurisdiction.

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u/adaeze_cabrera-15 points·3 months ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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u/forest_plot_fionaMOD1 point·3 months ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/rina_bergstrom72 points·3 months ago

SURMOUNT-4 discontinuation arm showed regain. That is the reality of a chronic disease treatment, not a failure.

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u/nightowl_injector35 points·3 months ago

Not to be pedantic but FLOW and SURMOUNT are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/valeria_karlsen29 points·3 months ago·edited

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/injection_site_iris47 points·3 months ago

event rates are more informative than hazard ratios alone

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u/receipts_or_nothingvetting11 points·3 months ago

event rates are more informative than hazard ratios alone

Adding to this: SURMOUNT is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/milan_villalobos14 points·3 months ago

number-needed-to-treat is the house dialect

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u/hub_opssite staff3 points·3 months ago

number-needed-to-treat is the house dialect

Disagree on that part. 93.7% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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[deleted]1 point·3 months ago

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u/ewan_tulloch21 points·3 months ago

Phase 2 or phase 3?

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u/yusuf_ramos7 points·3 months ago

Not to be pedantic but TRIUMPH and SURPASS are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/britta_boateng57 points·3 months ago
appreciate you saying you do not know
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u/gastric_emptying_g68 points·3 months ago

Strongly agree. Phase 2 is investigational, not conclusive.

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u/pancreatitis_scare41 points·3 months ago

the relative risk reduction in headlines is not the whole story

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u/cesar_ivaturi33 points·3 months ago

dropout handling matters, especially on GI-heavy populations

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u/oskar_ibarra18 points·3 months ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/ines_boateng4 points·3 months ago

Strongly agree. Phase 2 is investigational, not conclusive.

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u/blunt_coldbox_notes45 points·3 months ago
genuinely useful, thanks
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u/ines_castellanos20 points·3 months ago

number-needed-to-treat is the house dialect

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u/hedda_adeyemi22 points·3 months ago

The evidence standard in c/vendorvetting gets called too strict about once a month, and every time, the thread ends with the complainant agreeing.

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