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c/trialwatch·posted 1 year ago by u/cloudy_vial_carol

[Vendor] WXT order #20 — France, 9 days, no drama, receipts inside

Paper Slow Clap ×2 Receipts ×1 Clean Column ×3

Quick one. Canada here.

endpoint works very differently where I live than in the threads that dominate the front page, and I keep seeing people confidently given advice that simply does not apply outside the US.

Specifics: the route I used took 18 weeks and cost roughly what I expected. The admin was worse than the cost. The thing that would have saved me the most time was knowing which document to ask for at the start.

Happy to answer questions from anyone in the same jurisdiction.

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u/plateau_patrol213 points·1 year ago

SURMOUNT-4 discontinuation arm showed regain. That is the reality of a chronic disease treatment, not a failure.

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u/yusuf_achebe0 points·1 year ago

number-needed-to-treat is the house dialect

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u/hub_opssite staff199 points·1 year ago

Yeah, absolute numbers matter more than the press release.

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u/ms_fragmenter157 points·1 year ago·edited

STEP 1 readout: 98.9% mean weight loss, absolute numbers matter. Spread around that mean is enormous.

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[deleted]112 points·1 year ago

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u/yusuf_ramos-17 points·1 year ago

Phase 2 or phase 3?

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u/alcohol_aversion94 points·1 year ago

Three years on this site and the questions have not changed at all. Which is depressing or reassuring depending on the day.

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u/foam_head_fred25 points·1 year ago

SURMOUNT-4 discontinuation arm showed regain. That is the reality of a chronic disease treatment, not a failure.

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u/joaquin_stanescu7 points·1 year ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

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u/iman_castellanos5 points·1 year ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

Disagree on that part. 98.1% and 99.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/cloudy_vial_carolOP2 points·1 year ago

event rates are more informative than hazard ratios alone

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u/sanne_laurent45 points·1 year ago

dropout handling matters, especially on GI-heavy populations

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u/ms_fragmenter32 points·1 year ago

dropout handling matters, especially on GI-heavy populations

Yes, exactly this, and it is the bit that took me 96 weeks to accept.

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u/careful_gradient_again44 points·1 year ago

Phase 2 or phase 3?

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u/hamza_zielinski30 points·1 year ago

press release TRIUMPH posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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u/rina_bergstrom41 points·1 year ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

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u/nordic_pricing25 points·1 year ago

absolute risk reduction, not relative risk reduction, that is how you decide

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u/ahmed_iyer10 points·1 year ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/receptor_bias_rick48 points·1 year ago

give the trial name, phase, n, and primary endpoint in the body

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u/ferran_dahlberg14 points·1 year ago

Which trial and what was the primary endpoint?

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u/adaeze_cabrera16 points·1 year ago

This is correct. Discontinuation arms show the regain reality.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD20 points·1 year ago

Tracking number removed. It identifies both ends of a shipment.

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u/cloudy_vial_carolOP13 points·1 year ago

What was the dropout rate?

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u/eu_apotheke_a18 points·1 year ago

Titration speed is a side-effect dial far more than an efficacy dial.

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u/enzo_ferrari5 points·1 year ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/nayeli_fonseca3 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Phase 2 is investigational, not conclusive.

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u/formulary_fighterappeals16 points·1 year ago

Three years on this site and the questions have not changed at all. Which is depressing or reassuring depending on the day.

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