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c/retatrutide·posted 1 year ago by u/nikhil_lindqvist

dose escalation: what the trials say vs what this community says

Results Sourced ×3

Week 94 update. 40kg down from the start, muscle cramps basically gone since about week 51.

Things that worked: consistency, protein at breakfast, walking more than I want to. Things that did not: everything I bought on the internet to help with muscle cramps.

The part that surprised me is how much of this is admin. Ordering, storing, logging, remembering. Nobody mentions that the hard bit is not the drug, it is the routine.

Happy to answer anything. Please do not ask me what dose you should be on.

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro85 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Heart rate escalation needs the actual data, not impressions.

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u/careful_gradient_notes78 points·1 year ago

Three years on this site and the questions have not changed at all. Which is depressing or reassuring depending on the day.

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u/honest_syringe3321 points·1 year ago

phase 2 numbers are not maintenance numbers, cite the trial

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u/incretin_ivyMOD48 points·1 year ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/ismael_eriksen45 points·1 year ago

the weight curves are unusually steep, which makes predicting individual response harder

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u/signe_villalobos12 points·1 year ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/nikhil_lindqvistOP26 points·1 year ago

Are you quoting phase 2 or is there phase 3 data now?

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u/tired_ledger_notes10 points·1 year ago

nobody should be giving this to anyone without extensive monitoring

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u/andres_sorensen19 points·1 year ago

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/discount_math_dm32 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. The evidence does not support that reading.

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u/nausea_notesside effects20 points·1 year ago

The glucagon component does different things than dual agonism. The nausea are not just amplified versions.

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u/andres_sorensen15 points·1 year ago

The glucagon component does different things than dual agonism.

Disagree on that part. 98.4% and 98.3% on the same vial is normal.

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u/sena_teixeira11 points·1 year ago

TRIUMPH data is phase 2, not phase 3, smaller n and shorter

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u/elodie_grimaldi6 points·1 year ago

research use only, handling and analysis, not protocols

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u/bilal_osei3 points·1 year ago

I am going to push back on this slightly.

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u/lurker_for_years4 points·1 year ago

triple agonism plus glucagon is a different physiological state than GIP/GLP-1 dual

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u/matias_falk16 points·1 year ago

the dosing is steep, the reflux reports are real, and nobody knows the human safety yet

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u/sofia_wikstrom10 points·1 year ago

That is net peptide content, not purity. Different number, different meaning.

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u/anya_moreau11 points·1 year ago

Strongly agree. Heart rate escalation needs the actual data, not impressions.

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u/crosspost_bot_no4 points·1 year ago

Did you actually measure heart rate or is that a feeling?

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u/baseline_drifteranalytical3 points·1 year ago·edited

the weight curves are unusually steep, which makes predicting individual response harder

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u/blunt_coldbox_202411 points·1 year ago

Inter-lab variance on this kind of assay is routinely 1–2 points. Different column, different gradient, different integration.

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u/yusuf_ramos3 points·1 year ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide. Do not assume the titration patterns transfer.

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u/solene_ilunga4 points·1 year ago

triple agonism is phase 2, do not generalise

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