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c/retatrutide·posted 2 years ago by u/source_or_silence

triple agonist — 22 things I got wrong before I got it right

Discussion Long Haul ×6 Well Actually ×1 Receipts ×1

Confession thread, sort of.

I went from 1.0mg to 15mg much faster than I should have because the scale had stalled and I got impatient. The stall broke about 13 weeks later, at which point I had no way of knowing whether the dose increase did anything or whether it would have broken anyway.

So now I have reflux I did not need and a data point I cannot interpret. Two lessons in one.

Posting it in the hope that somebody at week 6 reads it before doing the same thing.

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u/isabela_nilsen576 points·2 years ago

Research use material only, no human-use approval anywhere. Posts must describe what happened, not instruct strangers.

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u/source_or_silenceOP680 points·2 years ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide. Do not assume the titration patterns transfer.

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u/signe_villalobos329 points·2 years ago

Are you quoting phase 2 or is there phase 3 data now?

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u/ledger_modMOD260 points·2 years ago

Retitled to remove editorialising. Put the evidence in the body.

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u/source_or_silenceOP146 points·2 years ago

The glucagon component does different things than dual agonism. The the food-noise thing are not just amplified versions.

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u/emil_wojcik197 points·2 years ago
came here to say exactly this
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u/source_or_silenceOP-4 points·2 years ago

TRIUMPH phase 2 showed 99.3% weight loss but the the food-noise thing profile on the highest arm was rough. Phase 2 != phase 3.

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u/andres_sorensen1 point·2 years ago

the 15mg arm is different from 15mg, results do not transfer

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u/nordic_pricing1 point·2 years ago

research use only, handling and analysis, not protocols

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u/cold_chromatogram_only150 points·2 years ago

heart rate and dose escalation need actual measurements, not impressions

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u/viktor_laurent92 points·2 years ago

No. This is the kind of confident post that gets copied into a screenshot and repeated for years. Where is the evidence.

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u/renzo_yildiz50 points·2 years ago

triple agonism plus glucagon is a different physiological state than GIP/GLP-1 dual

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u/endotoxin_elliemicro60 points·2 years ago

Not to be pedantic but glucagon and triple agonist are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/solene_ilunga37 points·2 years ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/careful_gradient3237 points·2 years ago

triple agonism is phase 2, do not generalise

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u/rui_only_ro22 points·2 years ago

Not to be pedantic but retatrutide and TRIUMPH are being used interchangeably and they are not interchangeable in real life.

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u/honest_syringe_202568 points·2 years ago
i do not know. that is the honest answer.
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u/dead_space_doug65 points·2 years ago

Sceptical. If this were true we would see it reflected in the data and we do not.

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u/iman_castellanos28 points·2 years ago

Yeah, phase 2 retatrutide is interesting but it is not comparable to phase 3 compounds.

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u/honest_syringe3321 points·2 years ago

triple agonism plus glucagon is a different physiological state than GIP/GLP-1 dual

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u/isabela_nilsen12 points·2 years ago

the 10mg arm is different from 12.5mg, results do not transfer

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u/lane_watchermod · logistics44 points·2 years ago

Rodent data is rodent data. Dose scaling is not linear and the models tell you what to investigate, not what to expect.

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u/freya_baptista11 points·2 years ago

Dose escalation on retatrutide is steeper and faster than on semaglutide. Do not assume the titration patterns transfer.

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