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c/trialwatch·posted 1 months ago by u/draw_up_dizzy

genuine question about SURMOUNT that I am slightly embarrassed to ask

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Confession thread, sort of.

I went from 7.5mg to 2.4mg much faster than I should have because the scale had stalled and I got impatient. The stall broke about 6 weeks later, at which point I had no way of knowing whether the dose increase did anything or whether it would have broken anyway.

So now I have injection-site soreness I did not need and a data point I cannot interpret. Two lessons in one.

Posting it in the hope that somebody at week 26 reads it before doing the same thing.

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u/aurel_mwangi14 points·29 days ago

STEP, SURMOUNT, SURPASS, SELECT, FLOW, TRIUMPH — read the appendix

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u/draw_up_dizzyOP10 points·29 days ago

Disagree but this is the good kind of wrong — it is specific enough to be checked.

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u/anders_kuusela8 points·29 days ago·edited

press release SURMOUNT posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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u/zaid_roos3 points·29 days ago

phase 2 is not phase 3, smaller n and shorter trial

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u/yusuf_ramos15 points·1 months ago·edited

Mechanistically the bit that matters is TRIUMPH. It explains most of the early profile and a decent chunk of the outcome.

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u/gastric_emptying_g9 points·28 days ago

The confident tone is doing a lot of work that the evidence is not.

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u/sofia_ferreira6 points·28 days ago

dropout handling matters, especially on GI-heavy populations

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u/tove_ogunleye7 points·28 days ago

absolute risk reduction, not relative risk reduction, that is how you decide

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[deleted]4 points·28 days ago

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u/ahmed_iyer5 points·29 days ago

Inter-lab variance on this kind of assay is routinely 1–2 points. Different column, different gradient, different integration.

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u/milos_vanhecke2 points·29 days ago

press release hazard ratio posts must be flaired until a publication exists

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