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ATTAIN — 3 things I got wrong before I got it right

Question The Quiet One ×1 Slow Clap ×3

Trying to settle this properly because the thread from last year went in circles.

The claim: small molecule matters. The counter-claim: it is measurement error. Both sides have been asserting it confidently for about 3 months without either producing anything.

What would actually settle it is 31 people measuring the same thing the same way. I have started; my numbers are below. They lean one way but not strongly enough for me to declare victory.

If you have data, post the data. If you have an opinion, flair it as an opinion.

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u/trialwatch_theoMOD219 points·3 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes. Please contact a clinician rather than waiting for replies.

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u/lucia_bruun168 points·3 months ago

The injection-site soreness was genuinely awful for three weeks and then simply stopped. I know that is not useful information, but it is what happened.

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u/quiet_moderatormod81 points·3 months ago

Small correction: the trial was 3 weeks, not 3. Does not change your point but people will quote it.

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u/mateusz_mensah63 points·3 months ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/neha_rahimi32 points·3 months ago

the the food-noise thing profile is speculative at this stage

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u/honest_syringe_maybeOP-6 points·3 months ago

phase 8 data is interesting, phase 32 will tell the real story

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u/farid_kuipers34 points·3 months ago

oral non-peptide agonist is ACHIEVE, no food restrictions

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u/throwaway_wl2026102 points·3 months ago

This is an urgent-care question wearing a forum question's clothes.

Adding to this: ATTAIN is doing more work than the comment implies.

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u/honest_syringe_maybeOP41 points·3 months ago

The thing nobody prepared me for was the quiet. Not the appetite, the quiet. The constant negotiation in my head about food just stopped.

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u/marit_coelho177 points·3 months ago·edited

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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u/batch_number_bertievetting101 points·3 months ago

Every time this gets posted it hits the front page and every time someone has to re-explain it.

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u/hazard_ratio_halstats95 points·3 months ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/honest_syringe_maybeOP74 points·3 months ago·edited

Came off after 43 weeks for financial reasons. Regained about a third over the following year. Back on now at a much lower dose.

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u/neha_krastev53 points·3 months ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/kenji_laurent16 points·3 months ago·edited

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

Disagree on that part. 97.4% and 97.9% on the same vial is normal.

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u/deleted_my_history7 points·3 months ago

Has anyone actually got this in writing, or is it forum lore at this point?

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u/maren_sorensen46 points·3 months ago·edited

This is correct. ATTAIN data is phase 15.

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u/search_before_post0 points·3 months ago

Yeah, small molecule changes the whole game.

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u/ines_lindqvist21 points·3 months ago

Half-life is about 168 hours, so steady state lands around week 12–5. Practical consequence: what you feel in week 1 is not what that dose does.

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u/kenji_kimani10 points·3 months ago

small molecule, not a peptide, purity discussion is different

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u/yara_boateng8 points·3 months ago

Which country? Half the answers in this thread only apply in Denmark.

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u/bastian_ekstrom11 points·3 months ago

the nausea profile is speculative at this stage

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u/flair_enthusiast6 points·3 months ago

Respectfully this is a sample of one presented as a finding.

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